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I'm Scared
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| I don't get all these different genres of metal. Why can't we just have METAL and leave it at that? I don't care if it's goth, thrash, death, black, or whatever crazy genre it supposedly is. If it sounds good, I'm going to listen to it regardless. I have numerous friends that won't listen to a band just because they're -x- genre. That's ridiculous. Metalheads fighting against metalheads just because they listen to different genres of metal equals laaaaame. Metal is metal. Who cares what genre it is.
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Supreme Being
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| Genre classifications are very important. Not everyone is into every sub-genre of metal. If you tell someone "yeah, this is metal", they won't know if it sounds like Iron Maiden, Thyrfing or Amputated. Besides, goth metal isn't even really metal.
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Metalhead87 (8/12/2007)
Genre classifications are very important. Not everyone is into every sub-genre of metal. If you tell someone "yeah, this is metal", they won't know if it sounds like Iron Maiden, Thyrfing or Amputated. Besides, goth metal isn't even really metal. Well... I don't know about all that, but you're the DB guy so I'll take your word for it. The genre thing makes sense from a DB point of view, so I agree with you from that perspective, but... If goth metal isn't even metal, why is it a metal sub-genre? Is it just because it's "dark and evil", and some clown decided to stamp "metal" on it?
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| metalhead87 has a very specific idea of what metal is and how to define it. If it does not meet his specifications, he does not consider it metal. personally, I know next to nothing about goth so I won't comment.
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| The metal tag is thrown on everything. People completely forget that there are other genres, like hard rock, punk/hardcore or alternative rock, which better describes the sound of certain bands (like industrial metal, nu-metal or metalcore). Sure, some goth metal bands (like Cradle Of Crap or Stream Of Passion), might include some metal in their sound, but for the most part, goth has nothing to do with metal. Playing a heavier version of goth rock, with some occasional throat vocals (which didn't even come from metal in the first place, metal bands just expanded on it), doesn't make bands like Leave's Eyes or Epica metal. It's even a stretch to call a lot of the post-1st wave of black metal bands, as actual metal. Many of them are more rock, punk and even folk in their approach.
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| ....(crickets chirping)....(more crickets chirping). Maybe I just like my idea of "metal is metal" because it's easier to comprehend. That's what I'm saying though about all the sub-genres; they don't necessarily mean anything. That's why I'm not, not going to listen to a band just because they're a certain genre. I'll give everything a shot. How many people really know what makes a band part of a certain genre? Is it just a matter of opinion for the most part, or is there some classifying entity out there that properly labels a band's style of music? As Metalhead87 mentioned, people label certain bands differently for whatever reason, so who is right, and who is wrong. Opinion, or entity is the question. I'd like to pick your "metal sub-genre" brain sometime Metalhead87 if that's cool. You seem to know a lot about the subject. A hell of a lot more than I do that's for sure. I know what certain bands are labeled, but I only know because that's what I've been told, or that's what I've read. It's seems to me that some bands could fit into multiple genres, but I don't know how all that comes about. I'd like to learn though.
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Hitnoxfiction (8/13/2007)
....(crickets chirping)....(more crickets chirping). Maybe I just like my idea of "metal is metal" because it's easier to comprehend. That's what I'm saying though about all the sub-genres; they don't necessarily mean anything. That's why I'm not, not going to listen to a band just because they're a certain genre. I'll give everything a shot. How many people really know what makes a band part of a certain genre? Is it just a matter of opinion for the most part, or is there some classifying entity out there that properly labels a band's style of music? As Metalhead87 mentioned, people label certain bands differently for whatever reason, so who is right, and who is wrong. Opinion, or entity is the question. I'd like to pick your "metal sub-genre" brain sometime Metalhead87 if that's cool. You seem to know a lot about the subject. A hell of a lot more than I do that's for sure. I know what certain bands are labeled, but I only know because that's what I've been told, or that's what I've read. It's seems to me that some bands could fit into multiple genres, but I don't know how all that comes about. I'd like to learn though. But then a lot of bands that aren't metal, will get lumped into that category. People even refer to Marilyn Manson as metal. There is definitely a chain of key characteristics that would link a band to a certain sub-genre. It's pretty objective, and doesn't have all that much to do with opinion. Sub-genres are essential. People are more interested in certain sub-genres, than they are with others. If someone told me about some black metal band, I would be a little reluctant to check them out. But if they told me about some tech thrash band that I haven't heard of, I would jump all over it.
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