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RE: Kiss

9er — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:51:16 GMT

[quote][b]Jeremy (8/11/2007)[/b][hr]

Kiss has terrible songs, the musicianship is a joke, they're all about the image and live show. GWAR is the same exact thing[/quote]

Whatever. GWAR blows away a lot of bands in terms of musicianship. Most people can't look past their costumes...

RE: Kiss

Animal — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:27:35 GMT

[quote][b]Demolitionizer (8/3/2007)[/b][hr]Alice cooper was so much more influential than KISS as far as theatrics are concerned, Alice started it ALL whereas Kiss just got the Fire, and smoke machines on the guitars thing going good.

If you ask me, KISS was the first Metallica...sucky start...explosive middle carrer...and a slow decline...a "Countdown To Extinction". [/quote]

Not exactly. [i]Kill Em All[/i] is a landmark in metal.

RE: Kiss

Isy_Cal — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:39:02 GMT

Hi, yeah, I realize that I don't post much...but I do read a lot of the forums because everyone's opinions and conversation bring a smile to my face. :) But I have a KISS story to share...I got to meet KISS in L. A. a long, long time ago. (yeah, I'm old.) Makeup and everything I was very young and very impressed by their "superstar" status. As far as being "metal", well um, idk. I personally would not categorize them as metal. Their shows were/are extremely flashy, very loud, all theatrics included, the music is ok-if you're into that...but WOW!!! I recently saw them and I realized that I never knew that spandex came in size 52 hefty. You could hear the seams screaming from around the world. OK, maybe that wasn't very nice, but it is true. And yeah, once upon a time they impressed me and the fact that we're asking "are they metal?" must mean that they've impressed someone-somewhere-good or bad. :)

RE: Kiss

Jeremy — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:36:06 GMT

Even if they put on the best live show, I still wouldn't give them the time of day. A good live show isn't what makes a band good. It's the music.

Kiss has terrible songs, the musicianship is a joke, they're all about the image and live show. GWAR is the same exact thing

RE: Kiss

Hitnoxfiction — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:12:50 GMT

I feel that KISS is one of the most overrated bands out there. They're definitely not a metal band by any means. They sure try to look metal, but I think they are just trying to compensate for lack of musical talent. I've tried and tried to get into them because they seem to be such a major influence in the music careers of so many awesome bands, but... I think most of that influence has been in the showmanship category.

Supposedly they put on a hell of a live show, but everytime they come around on tour I can't bring myself to fork out the money. Maybe seeing them live would change my opinion of them, as it has with numerous other bands for both better and for worse, but as of now I give them a big giant thumbs down, and an astounding negative in the metal genre.

RE: Kiss

voodoo — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:19:43 GMT

Agree on the BOC-Kiss comparison.

My wife's uncle is a HUGE BOC fan. He inadvertently got them to play a show on July 4th here (in Frederick, MD). He works at the post office and mentioned to a co-worker that he is big fan, talks to the band once in a while when they are in town, and said he would love to see them play on July 4th (there have been some big names playing shows in the past for July 4th). Anyway, another co-worker overheard and just so happened to know the bands manager, or someone close to the band, and passed the suggestion along. Soon after BOC booked the show.

RE: Kiss

9er — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:33:42 GMT

If you ask me, KISS was the first Metallica...sucky start...explosive middle carrer...and a slow decline...a "Countdown To Extinction".

And KISS had THEIR OWN RIVAL!!

Metallica had Megadeth (The latter being the victor :P)
KISS had Blue Oyster Cult.(IDK who wins there...)[/quote]

Now you can't compare Kiss to BOC. BOC blows them out of the water in every aspect if you were to actually compare them.

Kiss was rock for the masses that used catchy tunes and visuals to really reel in the fans. Alice Cooper (band and solo) were more about writing songs, not anthems. The same for BOC.

Also, Alice had a stage act. Kiss had a theme.

RE: Kiss

Demolitionizer — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:15:46 GMT

Alice cooper was so much more influential than KISS as far as theatrics are concerned, Alice started it ALL whereas Kiss just got the Fire, and smoke machines on the guitars thing going good.

If you ask me, KISS was the first Metallica...sucky start...explosive middle carrer...and a slow decline...a "Countdown To Extinction".

And KISS had THEIR OWN RIVAL!!

Metallica had Megadeth (The latter being the victor :P)
KISS had Blue Oyster Cult.(IDK who wins there...)

RE: Kiss

9er — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:02:39 GMT

[quote][b]Metalhead87 (6/28/2007)[/b][hr]Alice Cooper was much more important for the theatrics than KISS was...[/quote]

Yes and no. Alice Cooper was more sincere and fun while Kiss was more about specticle. Check out the footage of the Black Album tour from Metallica, it owes more to Kiss than to Alice Cooper.

RE: Kiss

voodoo — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:57:30 GMT

[quote][b]Metalhead87 (6/28/2007)[/b][hr]Alice Cooper was much more important for the theatrics than KISS was

I can understand why some people from the older generation liked them, but when you look back on it, they were terrible musicians playing poorly written pop music. Heavy on the gimmick, light on the substance[/quote]

STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!

I agree 100% with Jeremy........... :w00t:

RE: Kiss

Jeremy — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:32:45 GMT

Alice Cooper was much more important for the theatrics than KISS was

I can understand why some people from the older generation liked them, but when you look back on it, they were terrible musicians playing poorly written pop music. Heavy on the gimmick, light on the substance

RE: Kiss

9er — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:42:03 GMT

I can understand the dislike of the band among most extreme metalheads, but aside from their commerical and consumer bend, they were the band that really started all the theatrics. Countless rock and metal bands owe a lot to Kiss. Just look at any extreme metal cover album... it tends to have a Kiss song on it...

RE: Kiss

Animal — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:06:30 GMT

Kiss is one of the bands that steered me toward metal, so I would say that at least their 70's- early 80's material is metal, even though I don't care for their marketing gimmicks and can't stand what Gene Simmons has evolved into- if he wasn't an outright money whore from the start.

RE: Kiss

Dr. Pete — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:47:05 GMT

[quote][b]voodoo (6/26/2007)[/b][hr]
Seriously, they have no business making music, TV shows, or caskets.[/quote]

Or participating in wrestling programs.

RE: Kiss

AceQ2K — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:32:27 GMT

kiss is for sure rock no doubt about that

RE: Kiss

Jeremy — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:43:19 GMT

I hate this band as much as I hate Ozzy.

They're hard rock. Most of the time, I would just call it rock.

RE: Kiss

9er — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:12:01 GMT

[quote][b]voodoo (6/26/2007)[/b][hr]No offense to the KISS army, but I hate that band more than Metalhead87 hates Ozzy.

[/quote]

LOL

RE: Kiss

voodoo — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:08:19 GMT

No offense to the KISS army, but I hate that band more than Metalhead87 hates Ozzy.

:D

Seriously, they have no business making music, TV shows, or caskets. Biggest waste of stage time ever. Blah.....

Kiss

9er — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:52:04 GMT

Are they heavy metal? At times, IMO. Creatures of the Night and Revenge are pretty heavy for a rock group. Plus their impact on metal is still seen today.

Any fans? I love COTN.